Ep 02 | Tafara Omeje (Building a client base)

Ep 02 | Tafara Omeje (Building a client base)

In Ep.02 Taf and I cover some great topics. Personal trainers out there, Iโ€™m sure you can relate๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ

๐ŸŽ™ What it means to be passionate about your craft
๐ŸŽ™ Doing whatโ€™s necessary to building a client base
๐ŸŽ™ Tafโ€™s philosophy on getting people addicted to fitness
๐ŸŽ™ Building your social media and what people want to see

Hit up the guests below..
Taf: www.instagram.com/taf_omeje/

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Youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl7rByjFXZ8

Transcription Notes:

(00:00) It’s an industry that I generally love. I have a passion for I. I eat sleep. I live for fitness. No, you need to be obsessed. We need to wake up. Think about it. We need to go to bed. Think about your clients. Think about your progress. Think about what you can do better, genuinely like. Just be like patient and take the time like that. that like you’ve got to take it own it in the right steps. You’ve got to know what you do in person before you go in like I don’t like to talk about fear. The fear is is usually something that makes your worries real.

(00:34) You are listening to the coaching ignited show where we bring you stories and insights from coaches, fitness professionals and industry experts to help you expand your business and reach your goals. If you’re a new listener. Thanks for joining us. My name is Alex Povey. You can subscribe to the podcast on all your favorite apps including Spotify and iTunes. The coaching ignited movement is on a mission to help coaches and personal trainers increased ourselves and reach their full potential. If you wanted to find out more, please head over to coaching ignited.com and if you wanted to connect with us on social media, all the details can be found in the show notes. Now let’s get into today’s show. Right. So this is

(01:17) episode 2 of the coaching ignited podcast and I’ve got Taf Omigy here with me today. He’s been a personal trainer in Manchester for around a year and it’s been in bodybuilding for around four years. Um, and I just want to say thank you for joining me on the podcast today. Taf. And if you could just give people a bit more of a backstory about you and how you got started in the industry.

(01:40) Yeah, no worries man. Thanks for having me. Um, so how did I get started in the industry? Pretty much I was like a start underweight, so I, I was super skinny, is about 59 60 keep that 60 something 61 kilos. I’d say a high ball it. And I just didn’t like being in that weight and like being that way or anything like that. So I started lifting weights for love of the training. Pretty much was I lifting and lifting had nothing to do bodybuilding. At first it was just a love of the training over the training. Um, and then I’ve got pitched to go for a show. I said, no, I don’t want to study no. Most beetles and the the stage ended up doing it end up doing quite well, so I continue to do so. And then, um, I was always helping people on line. This usually they’re like friends and sometimes random people. And I just thought to myself, I didn’t really like the job I was in because retail, why don’t I go to whats on, you know, I’m really passionate about, I do day to day without being paid to do. Why don’t we just kind of get paid for it. So that’s how I kind of, it’s personal training after the bodybuilding.

(02:42) Awesome. Great stuff. And then like, so when you, when you first went into the industry, like why did you start, like what was the first thing you did or who did you start working for?

(02:54) Okay. So when I first got into the, um, body, talking about bodybuilding came personal training, would you like to know

(03:01) the more of the personal training side? Like saying of your business or just getting started? Yeah.

(03:04) Okay. Right. So as I kind of set it up online and I would just create these little, uh, he’s actually doing quite well these little programs for people. Usually a younger guys, I want to select it but at the buddies because they kind of knew I came from. So I set up a little programs here and there. I wasn’t exactly a personal trainer yet. I’ll just sit in these programs on, um, and they’ll do it really well. People getting results from it, but I wasn’t feeling the satisfaction of like, you know, in, in person, that kind of relationship you develop with the client and the growth I wasn’t experienced in that. I felt as though it was a massive gap. And while I wanted to experience, so, um, I started the purse fitting last year and I went to a personal training company called your personal training. Um, not, but companies while they provide quite a lot of great infrastructure agree to start as well. Um, I know I start off in disbarred. I’m still there now, did spree Manchester and yeah, pretty much I’ve just got started and pretty much grown there.

(04:00) Great. And then like talk about the uh, just rewind a little bit cause that’s quite an interesting point. You said he started off by just selling programs like online, like how are you doing those? Was it through like social media or people reaching out to you? You each out. So then how did that sort of come about ready?

(04:17) So initially it definitely kicks off through social media. So Instagram when I just started Instagram, I think just, I think it was just about that, just about seeing, I don’t know when it came up, I’ve just seen as instagram when I first started I thought, okay, why not? This is a good place to document my progress. Like, I wasn’t doing it for likes or anything. It was just a document progress and to see how far I could see your kid because it’s something I can look back on constantly. Um, and other people have starts following me. And then that kind of people that, oh hold on, this guy’s done it for this long is this young. I want that as well. And then I feel that’s how it came about. And I’ve got a few referrals. Like I’d get like a message saying, Oh this guy tried your program, I’d like to try one. How much is it for a program? And it kind of just went from there. Really.

(05:04) Awesome. So like in terms of you like profiles, so how long have you actually been building it now? Um, maybe talk a little bit about like your strategy around building the profile. Cause I’m sure that would be quite interesting to a lot of people.

(05:18) Okay. So I’ve been, it was one intentional, but I’ve been building it since I kind of started the true bodybuilding training. Like, I’ll just, I’ll just wait. I guess what to create like a, a certain vibe and people, people can request my page and motivation and stuff. But it’s always been consistent. The same kind of the, what’s the word now? The same kind of vibe. I was begun around do the profiles creating was consistent. So I see it’s been that stub bodybuilding journey. Um, I’ve had, I’ve had that profile, which is the intensity, which is the way I approach training and nutrition as well. Um, there, that’s not really changed for the past four years.

(06:00) Did you post on that quite regular that you doing like daily posts? Do you do in stories like, yeah. So it, you have a lot of strategy around what you doing.

(06:08) Okay.

(06:08) Yes. So sorry. Yeah, both new. Yeah, I do

(06:12) a few posts a day and I always try to put some items of information underneath the, in the caption, you know, some, not just, you know, something basic and motivational for the most part. It’s also something to do with a particular very specific part of training that people may be struggling with. Okay. So that could be muscular, muscular engagement’s a massive one, but people aren’t, aren’t growing. I always kind of cope or something like that. It could be the fact that cardio was great for the physique. It doesn’t eat your way up muscle gains. It’s great. And I’ve always kind of the hot, very in depth informative captions, which again sparks people’s interest and kind of creates that prospect for them to come to approach me for stuff.

(06:51) Okay.

(06:51) Yeah, totally. Have you sort of like notice any particular pieces of content and do better than others?

(07:00) MMM.

(07:02) You know what, with with, with Instagram I’ll be very real. It’s a very shallow platform initially. So people want to see a great physique condition. Either just want to see, um, the person topless. They just want to see a great physique. And then that was our strong intention and then they read the caption. So it was always the, the, the content where like, I mean we’re posing like a bodybuilding polls are all working out like a vest or the topless, something like that, that gets the attention and then they read the caption. So it’s usually those type of posts.

(07:35) Yeah. So you basically, it’s our statics and it’s the click bait. Right, exactly. People are looking for those stimulating for spoke for the engagement. Um, and then do you, do you spend a lot of time like, um, on social media then I write in the captions and crafting like the different images, like does a lifetime go into that or, or not so much?

(07:57) MMM.

(07:58) I don’t want to think all lot time us to go into it because again, I’m not trying to, uh, setting the body in anything. It’s just something I’m really a passion. Like I’m passionate about that subject. I’m thinking in my head a bit. I probably have been thinking about that subject for probably like a few hours, even the day. And it just comes out in, in a, in a post, you know, so it’s pretty quick. So I don’t, unless I grab a picture and I think, okay, what kind of posts? I’ve already got the post in my head and the pictures, I can just take that anytime. You know what I mean? So it doesn’t really take long. Um, but you do get to the point where you’re invested quite a bit of time into it to make sure that the posts that you do out there, uh, pretty much it all informative and worth reading.

(08:37) Yeah. Here’s an interesting one for you because like a lot of people ask me like about social media, and growing that buy personal training businesses and I think it is, is a great sort of platform to use but it’s super saturated. Right? But what would be like your opinion for like a personal trainer just out, um, in terms of using social media? Do you say? Yeah, go for it or just stick to the basics in the gym to pick up clients because it’s quite a slow process doing it online.

(09:07) I would say use both because you are going to create programs as the personal trainer. Um, but definitely in person. In person’s always going to win as a personal trainer. This on the online profile things a little bit, it’s great once it gets going, it bought this thought, you know, there there are no, it doesn’t bring you a maximum clients, if any. It’s not always say in person’s definitely the way to go, personal training. Get yourself known in the gym, be known for something. I don’t just be under the PT that don’t go wrong, sorry. Not just under the PT, don’t just be another generic PT, you know, so I can like niche pick( so we are talking about like niche picking). Yeah. Yeah, exactly. How the niche have your thing that people know who you from in the gym and that way people come directly instead of people hang out with it, they’re gonna use you for this or that. People need to come directly to you for that because that’s what you specialize in. And I think that’s where I kind of started selling and my definitely my job because I have that niche that people always come to me for. So definitely have your category that you want to stick to.

(10:13) So like in terms of like the niche picking, because um, when people are just starting out, they’re going to be quite general. Right. And it’s probably going to take them time to pick up that niche. But are you saying like is it’s a great idea to try and pick it as soon as possible or be more of a generalist for maybe six months and then try niche? Like what’s your perspective on that?

(10:34) I’ll say I’ll take it back even further. And it’s, I say prior to even becoming a PT, it find an aspect of fitness you’re passionate about because then it’s super easy. Okay. So now for me, I was already into the blood building, you know, to stop being a meathead, shifting weights. I liked all of that and I still love it joining other people, know me for that way before being a PT. So when I became a PT it is what people came to me immediately for that. And also the fat loss as well because again, when bodybuilder, I coached myself, always coached myself in the beginning, ended up winning a natural, a natural world title, um, as a junior as well. So it’s just, it is what it is. I mean that people have seen what I’ve done and they want that kind of, maybe not to the same degree, but they want that. And they know that can provide that because I’ve lived it.

(11:23) Yeah. So it sounds like you’ve got, you’ve got the passion driving the niche, right. And so you’re doing it more for your passion rather than just picking a niche for the sake of it. And that’s how you can come in day in, day out or even just boulder, an Instagram page around it for the last two, three years. Right. Cause you’re, you’re actually passionate about specific subject and you’re saying that super important, right. For personal trainers to think about.

(11:46) I think it’s essential. It’s pick yourself apart from the rest. Cool. I definitely will show it and say yeah, for sure.

(11:57) Okay. So in terms of like when you first started out, you started doing the personal training and the offline stuff, like talk about some of the, like the biggest challenges you’ve faced when just starting out. Maybe it was with getting clients or training clients or retaining clients or just getting yourself out there. But is there any sort of challenges that, that you, you faced?

(12:19) Oh, for sure man. As a PT when I initially came into the game, I thought yet, um, I’m in great shape, I’m just going to get clients. I didn’t know how I get them somehow. So yeah, me, I want my vest that says I’m a PT showing off the muscle thing. Yeah. Is it easy? No. Did I know it was great. It gets you very few. Like I’m sending you people, I dunno, but it’s about people. What people that they, they’re going to want to this approach you just because you’re in shape. Even though the, when they get in your shape, they just for the most part that I’m going to want to approach you. So that was off and I was one of my biggest challenges. I was like, okay, so I’ve got to like learn how to approach people and not sound like I’m just trying to take their money but truly help them. That was probably my biggest challenge, um, how to come about that, how to approach people like that. Um, so yeah, the definitely of the stop is obtaining the clients, keeping clients wasn’t really the issue. Um, because I, again, I’m doing this for other clients. I mean I’ve said I get paid for my service, but I give everything I can to the client. So retention with them, really the issue is always at the start was definitely acquiring for sure.

(13:33) Yeah. I don’t think that’s the same, um, with a lot of personal trainers coming into the industry. And I’m sure that will resonate with a lot of people cause there’s no real formal sort of sales training or training on how to solve approach people and generate new business and book them in for tasters and consultations. And you kind of left to your own devices after you’ve done all the, the education with the fitness and nutrition and, and the house stuff, right?

(13:58) Yeah, exactly. Like that stuff’s key. Like, um, you have to understand that I think people come into personal training experts in a bit more provision than there actually is available when it comes to marketing, when it comes to, uh, getting clients. So like, for example, me, I thought, I don’t know why I thought this bad thought, yeah, maybe I’ll get a little bit more help. Uh, from the senior PTs in the, in the company I was working for, I still work for under the wrong, they give me help, but they’ll forget that help give them how they have done things. So when I tried it didn’t feel natural. It didn’t feel good and that is quite, quite funky. It feel genuine when I was trying to execute their strategies. So it came through when I was talking to clients that they, you know, there wasn’t a gent, I wasn’t being genuine. So yeah, you got to kind of do on your own. You’ve got to figure out how you work and how you can communicate the best towards clients, making them feel comfortable right from the off, cause people can sense bias from a mile away. So yeah.

(14:59) Yeah, 100%. Right. And then like, uh, how was your sort of approach and your client acquisition now evolved over time?

(15:09) Right. So I’m much more receptive rather than just spitting out lines and hoping good kind of cuts the bait. It’s more reception now. So, um, first off to get the interaction, um, fired up, I would always go and fix them form as to how the training is going and pick up on the things that they told me that they really want to work on or the I see visually that really needs help. Like terrible form with dead lifting. Dead Lifting is very intricate movement that requires quite a bit of work to get nailed. Um, was I always try and help them with that and the, they see the shots and benefit and then I’m like, okay, you kind of a recession, it’s completely free. You can take whatever you want from the session and hopefully we can go from there rather than, um, hey, you like each people each one to sign up.

(15:54) It cost this much direct approach is to directs, I believe. Yeah. So it’s evolved definitely that way. I’m more, we set, it’s what the clients, well, the potential client is saying to me. Um, and also, you know what? Sometimes I don’t go in helping people expecting them to sign up. Sounds strange, right? I know that people that allow you, you’re and crap in the way. Before I used to go in and I would help people. I would help them give, I’m expecting them to give me something back, Aka, come sign up with me. Come do this now when I help them is just helping them. That’s it. I helped them out. They’ll conversation if they want. Some people have talked to wherever. Then I go about my business. Okay. Yeah. Sorry.

(16:41) Yeah,

(16:42) no, no. You carry on. Carry on. Yeah,

(16:44) sorry. Okay. Yeah, so that has helped me massively and I’ll tell you why. Now people are very, very, very, very vigilant in the gym. They watch everything I’m telling you. So again, I’m not doing it for anything, but I’ve realized once you give that genuine help and people can see it’s genuine, you’re not mentioning PT price, they can see you’re a PT, got the t shirt on, do you want me to can see you? They can read, but when you’re genuinely helping them, even if that person were helping, doesn’t sign up. They’ve got nothing but good things to say about you and the people watching around, you know, you know your stuff. You’ve just helped that person out in the space of two minutes and you’ve helped them massively. And I think that isn’t us another big as to how it continues to get clients is more so from just being genuine. Really.

(17:28) Okay.

(17:29) That’s a great, great insight. Um, cause I think it’s easy to overlook some times that you’re in an environment where everyone can see you all the time forever. There’s no escaping it, right? No matter where you look, there’s going to be either a prospect or client. I know the personal trainer and manager, Oh yeah. Someone actually like watching what you’re doing. Right. And what you’re saying is just give self asleep. Just give value. Just put it out there and you’re going to get it back. Right. And not sponge. What you’re saying is probably like the key for you building a client base as well as you start selfless while you’re giving.

(18:07) Oh yeah. That’s number one, man. 100% I’d say that’s an NEPT is hard because at the start you’ve got rent to pay for the most part. You know, you need plans and money, but you give and people will invest in you. They will, they’ll see this as worth in investing in you. For sure.

(18:24) Yeah.

(18:25) So like what other advice would you give to like maybe a new personal trainer, someone just starting out in the industry, don’t or they don’t have a great amount of knowledge or skills in sort of picking up clients are acquiring clients, um, that just trying to find that way or they’re just trying to build a client base. Like what would be some of the advice that you’d give to those those people?

(18:47) Okay. First things first, you’re going to make mistakes and don’t beat yourself up over it, but you’re gonna talk to people in a way where they can kind of throwing them off because they can tell you to try to pick, pinch them to the client. Um, first things first, one of that bits of pill is going to happen. A second thing is find a PT that’s killing it. Be Confronted that PT Somehow I’ll just get into, I don’t know, interact with them a little bit and get some insight as to how that bill a client base and how was their sales pitch. Because don’t forget you’re not really take it from that pot really. They’ve already got an established business. So it’s just really learning from people that have been there already and not just living for your own mistakes, but learn from other people’s mistakes and how they’ve really kind of rectified that and thrived. And maybe you can take some of those tips, put your own spin on it because everyone puts someone’s brand and things, no one does things exactly the same. Really. There’s always a slight spin take from a thriving PC. The techniques they use to get clients that the lines they use, the approaches, absorb it, digest it and try and do it yourself. And that helps me a lot.

(19:53) Yeah,

(19:54) great advice. Really good advice. So find mentors, find people that have done it, being that can show you sort of how to do it and lean on those guys and, and, and, and trying to absorb as much as you can but make it your own. Right.

(20:07) Exactly. Yeah.

(20:09) And then like what, like what do you believe sort of makes a successful coach or personal trainer? Um, I don’t just mean results wise. I just mean like building the business. Like what do you think some of the keys to success are for those people?

(20:24) Um, okay. So I would consider myself successful. I just consider myself growing, progressing. But from what I’ve observed from my mentors, what quite a few that were coaches and PT is hitting it. They put their clients first. I don’t know, it sounds very generic and cliche. Of course you would. But you have to remember PTs and personal trainers are humans too okay, we want our own time. We want to do our own. Sometimes you just want time off just me. But clients can sense that shit away. Did there’s no hiding the fact that you’re feeling off because you’re a bit tired. I feel that prioritizing clients is, people can feel that. Like for example, if a, if a client, um, you give a client a program, right? The personal training them twice a weekend, they do a program from you twice a week I’ll, how about you don’t just leave to the devices, you go and check on them.

(21:16) Wake up. The weak side of the programs going is how the progress is going. See what exercise they can’t actually execute. Because some people don’t say these things and they can’t execute things. He’d honestly, people would stay quiet, they’ll see nothing. So it’s up to you. You got to take it upon yourself to really investigate and see if they can do it. Um, if not fine. The reason why they can’t and if it can’t be helped initially find an alternative exercise while working with them in person to help their morbidity or whatever reason may be as to why they can’t do the initial one. You want me to have people feel that genuine help that the, that you know, other PTs can’t really provide if they’re not genuine and just want to put those people’s for people first, you know?

(21:57) Yeah, totally. Great perspective. And then in terms of like, like your time then, because you’re being pulled in lots of different directions, so you’re trying to build a business, you’re doing your online stuff, you’re training clients. Do you want to train yourself? Like how’d you go about managing gold up and just staying on top of everything while still moving forward and growing the business?

(22:20) Okay. You’ve got a, um, put it into perspective like us the latest the day before, but a few days before, like what you want to do. So for me, Monday is my busiest day, but I still get leg day done in one day. How do I do it? I put legs earlier in the day cause I know I’ve got, I’m full of clients probably from the afternoonish right up until later at night. So it’s probably about nine, 10 people. How do I get legs? Don’t know, fit it in early in that timeframe. Okay. So don’t privatize your chill time. Chill Times. Don’t last weekend when it comes to that Monday, it was the Friday or whenever you work till make sure you’re up, you’re ready you’ve and the stuff like that and you’re ready to train yourself. That short gap, don’t put it near the clients as well because you’ll be exhausted and you can’t provide a service. So I do mine who got lucky.

(23:10) I Dunno. I, I start with my class that see three o’clock. I’ve got my mornings free man. I’m up early. He maybe a cardio train my legs and I’ve got about two, two and a half hour, got before my clients. And that’s what I do pretty much for the whole week. I’ll just put leg day an example because it’s the most in day. Um, and also as well, or people that really love the trainer. I love my training. It’s like my, it’s my, it’s my drug. I love it. So I have to make sure I prioritize exercises that I need to develop the fuzzy k one rather than just kind of including a bunch of exercises and hope I can get done in that timeframe before it’s client. They privatize exercises that are most effective when training that we could have more time to use like after to get your food in and to kind of relax a bit before you get your clients in for the day.

(24:01) Okay. And then like in terms of your light schedule, you work in, right all the way through the week and then having Saturday, Sunday off. Do you do Saturdays? Do you do Sundays? Like what’s your routine

(24:12) when these two Fridays, whatever time I’m available, I’ll make it happen. Um, Saturday I live with myself. I have about, I’ll do mine in clients and I’ll work no later than approximately two o’clock in the afternoon. That’s it. Um, Sunday is completely my day to do a lot because again, we’re an online business as well, fitness based programs and stuff. So I’ve got to attend to those people at the same way I do to my personal training clients in person. So Sunday’s my day. Yeah.

(24:40) Yeah. Resting, same for me. I’m pretty much working all the way through the week. Even today, Saturday, those are calls, interviews, speaking to people, creating social media and that stuff. But Sundays is rest day, right? Yeah. With a little bit social media and stuff in between. You know, it’s hard to put it down some times, isn’t it? And uh, stop the wheels turning and the likewise excites you most about like your, your future business, like the next 12 months. What’s really exciting you?

(25:15) No, I’m just trying to create a, um, I want to create a new approach to training that’s more as widely accepted that isn’t accepted now, which is hard work because it’s not accepted. People was preaching, but nobody did. People do do it to an extent. They do it for periodized time and then they take time off and then they get, no, no, no. It’s hard work. It’s consistency and its progression. Okay. So some people work really hard but you still that level for so long and they wonder why they put, so there’s no progression. So I’m trying to create that culture of what I’ve gone through and how I’ve constantly progress my own physique and make it kind of normalized within society and the gyms now job whatsoever. I am wherever I go, I’m with and through my social media too. So that’s really happened with the clients I’ve worked with now that they’re constantly pushing themselves and he constantly get better.

(26:06) Even the clients that have left me, they constantly gotten better on their own because they’ve had that, they’ve, it’s been exposed to me, they know what I’m about. And then they kind of got went through that first hand and they went away with it and then he starts to develop and if people that Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, how does happen, but you still getting better, what’s going on? And then they refer them ride, but to me, and I just kind of spread that against, once I get that a new person in, I’ll just repeat the process and I’m just trying to do that over and over again so people know they no longer have to a relapse. Do you know how, how many people, have you ever thought, to what extent been like, yeah, I’ve been in the gym here and there. I’ve been off and on for whatever reason. Right?

(26:43) Yeah, definitely.

(26:44) Even I do it sometimes even I do it like work builds up, it takes a bit of a back for if you’re not a personal trainer or a fit pro, right? Like, yeah, we’re like normal people. When I say normal, just being just like Gemma workers, they’re not fit pros. We do put it on the back foot sometimes and it’s a discipline thing, right? Um, and sometimes it’s tough to maintain that and that’s why personal training and coaching is, is so valuable to people because it actually makes them accountable. And that’s why I back what you guys do so much. I’m on. I appreciate that man. And building on that. I’ve got a few clients that like, um, all companies are doing super well. I bet I’ll consider them. I had look to them when it comes to success while they look to me when it comes to burden the body and fitness and stuff.

(27:28) But these guys have like 14 [inaudible] that 14 hour days and it’s like crazy. But I’ve made it to the point now where they’re seeing progression and they’re constantly progressing. So it’s almost like an addiction for them to work out. It’s like part of their work routine. Almost like they won’t miss anything and work because they see the fruits of their labor. They see that their business is kind of their baby. I mean the building it up and it’s just, it’s the amps extension of them. I’ve kind of make fitness the same thing for people. Okay, great. That progression embraced the progression is see it almost make it an addiction. You know, fitness. I want people to be addicted to fitness. I want that. I don’t want people to see it as good.

(28:07) It’s a good goal. Is it good?

(28:09) Good. Addicted to fitness, you will never relapse again ever. And that’s pretty much my goal. Yep. Kill me. Kill relapses.

(28:21) Okay, so you must be quite a big consumer yourself if you’re a big sort of produce in terms of content and creating programs and stuff, you must be consuming a lot of stuff as well. Box Articles, materials or just like mentors or anything like is there anything that you would want to direct people to in terms of like resources it should be looking at, it’s going to be really helpful and that that journey of growing a personal training business.

(28:49) Now this is interesting. I’ll excel, I want to say yeah for sure. You don’t want to learn but I feel like you need to before you’ve taken all of these concepts or these approaches muster your approach first, the core product that fit. So what I do is because I don’t believe I’m going to put my own foot, I feel like I can do even more with it. So all I do is I look at certain people that are pros when it comes to mute, that movement coaches that there is one called coach Eugene guys, epic, um, quite Instagram. But you guys, if you’re going to you guys listening to this, he’s like Asian guy was super long, super long ponytail and he’s like, great physique. You can’t, can’t miss him anyway. Um, but yeah, he’s one of the few pounds. Look to us because he movement coaching goes hand in hand with bodybuilding to an extent. Like when you think about how certain muscles are not engaged

(29:42) with it at say an exercise and people just assume that those body parts of working with, they’re not really there, they’re just not working as people want them to. So when they see the end result, after a few months, they’re disappointed that Eugene, that coach Eugene, he talks about how to engage all these areas and all of these different ways that haven’t been thought of. And if you can make workouts with those little movements involved, you can be a blow up someone’s physique. And that’s something that I’ve started to do with myself now be much more open to hunt, positioning, body positioning and certain exercises, which is really developed my own physique and I’ve started pushing that on to clients. Um, also as well, trying to think of an another person. Yes. And also people that I do look towards. I want to say it, it’s don’t just look for information and just consume anything. I disagree because it starts to skew your own view a little bit. I would probably say look up people that are doing maybe the area that you’re really interested in and just delve into those people. Don’t just look at generic information and consuming because it will reflect in your work. It will be very scattered work you do with web clients by them being direct and focused.

(30:51) Awesome. Great stuff man. Okay, so like have you got any final words for the listeners or like a advice, like extra advice that you just want to share? I just it to sort of wrap things up.

(31:05) Uh, yeah. Advice. Don’t be afraid of human interaction. You’re trying to be a first of the trainer. Honestly, I don’t know. Again, under the generic one, but it’s, it’s true. Don’t be afraid of him. It’s about you. Remember, no one does. No, you’re not old and hello. Hello. You’re not old interruption by anybody. Any clients in that, it’s up to you.To go and talk to them. Show your worth, help people. And after that you’ll thrive. Once you got past that and you taught it’s people you show your worth, you helped them out. No problem. No problem at all.

(31:36) Okay.

(31:37) Why’d you think people struggle with I spent so much because it’s quite, it’s quite simple concept, right? Go Up to people, appoach people, speak to people, interact, um, make as many contacts as possible. Um, and if you do that repeatedly, day in, day out, then you’ll build a client base, right? Yeah. Why did you think people struggle to do that basic thing? Cause I know it exists because I hear it every day.

(32:02) You know what? People have gotten more socially, socially awkward as time has gone on from my what I observed and experienced before. This becomes like, it’s easy to talk your mind on, on social media. It’s like super easy, right? So everyone, pretty much no consequences really. Normally it doesn’t affect your earring Clementina that whatever does that fit your ego. But when it comes to in person and the fact that people could reject you, that that possibly is that rejection or that possibility, you know, someone being an awkward and that’s telling you what you want to hear. It throws people off, man. It throws people rights often there though and experience. They just want to hear yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. They don’t want to go through the notes. Nobody wants to go through the notes neither do I. But what I realized is that notes, notes are good. Well, what helps you do it helps you build your approach. You can really evaluate where you went wrong. That the amount of times I’ve been told, not like, no, I’m, I’m okay and the gym, okay, where did I go wrong? And I worked on that and I go up to someone that I consider similar and I’ll try it again. Just use people just sounds wrong, but these people to test subjects in this in this way. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. You’ll, you’ll see you start to develop easy, quick

(33:13) 100% try the, try it that way, that the best way

(33:18) and it’s, but it’s difficult sometimes isn’t it? Because you kind of dealing with that fear of rejection. I think that’s one of the biggest stumbling blocks that I come across in my work with training clients is um, the fear of rejection. I think a lot of personal trainers kind of feel like, um, they’re a touch there. You go to the situation and when they approach people, they feel like if they get rejected as reflection of them in that personal training services and it makes them less than a person when that’s completely not true. Right? Cause how can someone’s ten second opinion of your approach be a reflection of you as a personal trainer and your skillset and your knowledge. Right. But I think a lot of people do sort of attach their ego to the situation. It kind of creates a barrier for them to progress because everything’s that you want is on the other side of that fear. Right?

(34:09) Oh my gosh, 100% I often down to the ad server. That was a great insight. I’d, it’s I’d that is, um, you’ve got to think about the pros and cons of you not going out to people. I’m going up to people. You are first and the trainer that at the end of the day you have bills to pay and things to pay off. You want to pull aggressive costs, but let’s just put it into em. It’s despots of, of, of you’re progressing your career and finances. All right? So you want to be known in the gym as that guy or that girl. You want to be known. You know, you want to grow, you want to get them all. Finances wouldn’t be able to live comfortably, not scrap around food, bits of money for bills and stuff, okay? If you do not not talk to anybody, that’s never, ever, ever, ever going to become a reality.

(34:53) The fact that you’re going to progress your career and you’ll get more financially stable and all that stuff does not going to happen. What if you do that to people fair enough. You will get some no’s, but you’re definitely going to get some yeses in there. There is no that isn’t unless you’re being an absolute and I don’t know fool to people that you don’t have to talk to people and you’re being or should just be ignorant and completely insulting people. You will get some yeses. You will get people that will put their faith in you to help them get a goal. Okay? That is what is on your, the side of your goal thoughts. Some yeses, nos. Yup, but that’s an opportunity to build and develop the approach. What you will get yeses and you’ll get opportunity to work with people, develop it career, great latching experiences for people. Develop your own finances, develop your own. You develop yourself as a professional, but if you just stay in your little corner, there’s a little bubble that you’ve created around the ego that you said before and you stick with that ego and don’t let it. Don’t let it allow to talk to people. PTing is not for you. If that’s the case, if the ego, if the ego that big, that’s, that’s definitely my, my, my 2 cents on that issue.

(36:04) I agree. Totally agree with, with, with your standpoint. Um, makes a lot of sense. One is say thank you so much for doing this podcast. It means a lot to me and I hope people have sort of found of volume what you’re saying. Um, because there’s a ton of stuff in there that’s applicable to a lot of people out there and that’s why we’re bringing these podcasts to people. Um, I’m going to put some links in the description to your like social media and stuff when we publish it. Um, but if you want to find you, where can they find you?

(36:32) Oh, I see you could the youtube, uh, that’s tough. Or media, c a s o m e j e, Instagram. Tough. We’ll meet you again, but with an underscore in between the names. So c a f underscore, O m e j. E in Facebook. That’s my training page as well on there. That’s the lead techs, athletics.

(36:54) Great stuff. Thank you so much again. Enjoy the rest of your day. Thanks for listening everyone and uh, we’ll see you soon.

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